Bismarck State College

Bismarck State College's Electrical Grid Management program is overall good, BUT the administration is very, very nasty and completely uncooperative or fair to their students. The staff in the Finance office, Financial Aid Office and the counselors are helpful, but the administration (management)is worthless at best. You have to threaten to go to the US Dept. of Education and the State College Regents before they consider treating you fairly. They want to cause problems for students or treat them badly when simple solutions are evident and requested.

This program is so out of whack. Teachers all require different approaches in writing papers. I completed a 2 year apprenticeship program and asked on day 1 about writing papers and was told all that would do is hold you back and slow down your learning and know I would agree since this job is 100% hands on. All teachers require different approaches in paper writing and the thing the blows me away is that 90% of them don't even have a bachelors degree. How are you going to require a paper when they do not have the education to back them up. I am sorry if u only have an A.A you should not be allowed to require a paper when you do not have the credentials to require it or grade it. One teacher wants apa format. One wants you to cite your sources on a 1 page or less paper but I'm sorry if you know the material at hand already it is going to sound the same as what is on the internet. I know of 1 teacher who used turnitin.com and I was like really this is an applied associate degree not a B.A or Masters degree it's actually worse then a A.A but better than a high school diploma. Some teachers are so full of themselves it disgust me and use their I have 20 plus years in the industry. OK sounds good but show me your credentials that shows you can in fact grade a paper and have you taken or passed an English class that has taught you these formats.its very sad when the student is more educated then the teacher. When enrolled into the program I was told it was a B.A (my fault should have looked into it more but was in a rush) then I was told it was an A.A then last year when I graduated I realized it was an A.A.S again my fault for not looking into it harder but was in a rush 2 get enrolled and get started. I was told it was about being a transmission operator and did not know you had to learn about BA, RC etc. Stuff if that was the case I would have taken my NERC in something more then just the TOP exam. Honestly It Did NOT Help ME 1 Bit 4 My NERC exam but some may differ. It was over 12 k for an A.A.S which in my opinion is highway robbery. Discussions are horrible again some teachers differ 9 n what they want and are not universal. Some want numerous responses to the same dam responses from other students. How much can you respond to on the same answer. Really BSU? If you don't have prior experience good luck on teaching yourself. Teachers email you late and are honestly crummy when you need help. Also, teachers are very RUDE in responses to emails and act like there stuff don't stink. I caught numerous teachers stating the wrong answers on test when they were blantently wrong and they new it. If you don't have prior knowledge you won't know the correct answer. The books are terrible and alot 9 them are per back and typed up by someone with alot of typos in them. Make sure if you go to check every class book requirements because if you rent books you may need them for other classes. I rented the same book 3 test then just bought the dam n thing but they do not inform you on this stuff. It's to bad no other colleges offer this program. Classes are 2,3 or 4 weeks and some teachers have deadlines for materials and some do not. If you have a teacher who has requirement deadlines count out a road trip or vacation because they will not work with you. I have been in this industry for almost ten years and know quit a bit about it so that helped me alot but this job is hands on and me, fellow employees and even my old instructors say it's a joke and how can you spend time learning when you have to write papers. The.papers are just busy work and if you wrote papers on all stuff associated with this job you would be writing them for 40 plus years. It's a hands on job and disagree with all the papers and again all teachers differ some want 2 short ones and some want six of them. Again if you have knowledge and understanding of a subject how can you cite yourself? If you work 12 hour shifts like myself and have required overtime Good luck because some teachers will except late work and some wont. This program needs to flow and be universal. Like in my bachelors degree program it all flowed and required the same things (like apa for all papers). This school needs to get their act together. If I could do it all over again I would not waste a penny on it. If your going to require something from a student you better have the credentials, education to back it up. I was absolutely disgusted with how this program operated and how teachers operated especially from being a ex teacher myself. Before you decide to go here read my review and be 100% sure you want to do this

The on line courses are well designed. Bismark is in the business of making money however. Credits offered to meet the basic math requirement for example are not awarded having completed Calculus-1 and 2 at another college. Also and most important, the advisors advocate the on-line concept in its entirety. You are mostly on your own for guidance. They give phone numbers but are rarely available and dont return calls. E-mail questions are answered with generic answers much akin to an FAQ page on any website. This school is not recommended.